On this podcast, Maanda Tshifularo interviewed Deshun Deysel, who is one of South Africa’s leading female mountaineers. she has been on 14 major expeditions to five continents. In 1996 she made history by being part of the first group of South Africans to plant the new democratic flag on the top of Mt. Everest. She is also one of South Africa’s leading motivational speakers, she is an excellent coach and facilitator. Deshun is the founder and director of Deshun Deysel & Associates, a business that focuses on encouraging and equipping leadership in a context of change and diversity. And on today’s virtual interview we discussed how you can lead effectively in the crucible of the storms we find ourselves in. She draws lessons from the many challenges mountaineers face when they summit high altitude mountains. She recommended Starting with Why by Simon Sinek and gave a fantastic challenge.